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I dont understand why they would reduce the quality when its literally one of the few things that distinguishes them from the competition. its reckless imo, just to save money on a couple of oz of cotton per shirt."},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Carhartt/comments/w02mwv/force_pocket_tshirts_need_feed_back_please/igc4f55/","type":"comment","title":"Force Pocket Tee Fit and Comfort Feedback","author":"[deleted]","ref_id":"r_e_6","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Carhartt/comments/w02mwv/force_pocket_tshirts_need_feed_back_please/","title":"force pocket tshirts need feed back please","subreddit":"Carhartt"},"excerpt":"The force tees are nice. They do fit true to size and are much more form fitting than the k87. They do shrink some in the wash. \n\nI prefer the k87 because I like my work clothes baggier so I don’t feel restricted crawling around and climbing ladders. The k87 is a heavier material and it is boxy. 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