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Yea they're good stuff, but you don't have to get them. There's many other brands out there that are great for maintaining the longevity of your boots. Cleaning and conditioning your boots actually extends the life of your leather boots. Because when you don't at all, they won't last as long as you'd expect them too. People can do what they want though since it's their boots. So you can do whatever you want 🙂","subreddit":"BlundstoneBoots"},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/BlundstoneBoots/comments/1olw6s2/about_2_months_of_constant_wear_on_my_2429_lace/noevdnf/","type":"comment","title":"2429 lace performance: good ankle support but slippery on wet rocks","author":"[deleted]","ref_id":"r_e_6","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/BlundstoneBoots/comments/1olw6s2/about_2_months_of_constant_wear_on_my_2429_lace/","title":"about 2 months of constant wear on my 2429 lace","subreddit":"BlundstoneBoots"},"excerpt":"Lots of hiking in mud and slick, but no snow yet! Ankle support is good, I like that it still allows me to be mobile and isn't too stiff, especially now that the leather has fully broken in. I did slip and fall on a large wet rock in Scotland that my partner had no problem with, she has the upgraded vibram tread on her slip-on blundstones, I would have purchased that if it was offered as they're definitely a bit stickier. That being said, I wouldn't consider these mountaineering or backpacking boots, but great everyday boots that are also perfectly serviceable for most hikes you'd throw at them. The woman who fitted me at the blundstone store said that one of her customers, who was a firefighter, brought a bunch of his coworkers back to get them because he loves them so much. 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Mon conjoint porte 101/2 et j ai pris 12 pcq 11 était trop petit","reviewer_name":"elise v."},{"date":"December 11, 2025","title":"Nice Quality","rating":5,"content":"Purchased as a gift - nice quality love the chocolate brown.","reviewer_name":"Pam G."},{"date":"January 2, 2025","title":"La pantoufle mule Tasman Homme","rating":5,"content":"Cadeau de Noël très apprécié , grandeur réelle.","reviewer_name":"Diane N."},{"date":"January 6, 2025","tags":["Sizing & Fit","Comfort"],"title":"So comfy","rating":5,"content":"I bought these for errand runs but I find myself wearing them as slippers too. They are so comfortable. I do think they run small. I’ve heard they stretch out over time. I’ve been wearing mine the past week and they have definitely gotten bigger but next time I will size up so I can wear bulky socks with them.","reviewer_name":"Lindsay W."},{"date":"December 8, 2024","title":"Pantoufles","rating":5,"content":"Cadeau de Noël qui devrait plaire et c'est à voir pour la taille mais selon les infos que J'ai prises, ça devrait être bon. Superbes mules.","reviewer_name":"Lise D."},{"date":"December 6, 2025","title":"Superbes","rating":5,"content":"C'est un cadeau de Noël pour mon conjoint alors pour la grandeur je ne sais pas encore. Je me suis fiée à plusieurs commentaires qui disaient de prendre une grandeur au-dessus. . . j'espère que ça ira, je le saurai le 24 décembre. J'espère que je pourrai les retourner après Noël si la grandeur ne fait pas. Sinon elles sont superbes. Pour en avoir 2 paires moi-même je sais que les UGG sont hyper confortables.","reviewer_name":"Diane M."},{"date":"January 9, 2025","title":"Super confortable","rating":5,"content":"Les UGG préférés à mon conjoint","reviewer_name":"Audrey G."},{"date":"November 29, 2024","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"Love the colours and comfortable","rating":5,"content":"Love the colours and comfortable","reviewer_name":"Ngan T."},{"date":"November 24, 2024","title":"Pantoufflesb bien confectionné","rating":5,"content":"Chaude et fait bien oui je les recommande","reviewer_name":"paule g."},{"date":"November 17, 2024","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"Great mules","rating":5,"content":"Comfortable and warm. Easy to put on","reviewer_name":"MARGOT W."},{"date":"January 6, 2026","title":"Ai retourné le 9. Celui-ci","rating":5,"content":"Ai retourné le 9. Celui-ci est bien","reviewer_name":"Solange C."},{"date":"February 23, 2025","title":"Confortable","rating":5,"content":"Pantoufles achetées pour mon conjoint. Elles sont très chaudes et confortables. Un look jeune.","reviewer_name":"Arlyne B."},{"date":"November 5, 2024","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"confort et apparence (ne fait pas trop pantoufle)","rating":5,"content":"confort","reviewer_name":"Johanne S."},{"date":"December 14, 2024","title":"Super !","rating":5,"content":"Très classe !","reviewer_name":"Louise M."},{"date":"December 31, 2024","title":"Confortable, belle couleur","rating":5,"content":"Livraison super rapide","reviewer_name":"Melanie L."},{"date":"April 2, 2026","tags":["Fabric","Durability"],"title":"Comfortable, sturdy","rating":5,"content":"Fast shipping, Good quality. These slippers look that they’ll last a long time.","reviewer_name":"Vandy S."},{"date":"February 19, 2025","title":"pareil comme l'image","rating":5,"content":"belle qualité de produit, par contre pense peut-etre a prendre un point plus grand si vous desirez les porter avec des bas","reviewer_name":"Julie B."},{"date":"August 7, 2025","tags":["Sizing & Fit","Fabric","Comfort","Style","Quality"],"title":"Tasman mule slippers","rating":5,"content":"Very stylish. . very comfortable. . had read the comments. . before I ordered them I'm glad I went up a size like the comments suggested. . .","reviewer_name":"Wayne T."},{"date":"November 26, 2025","tags":["Sizing & Fit","Comfort"],"title":"Très chaude et confortable ,","rating":5,"content":"Très chaude et confortable , prendre une taille au dessus","reviewer_name":"GAETAN C."},{"date":"February 12, 2025","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"Très confortable","rating":5,"content":"Elles sont très belles, confortables , légères et très chaudes","reviewer_name":"Nicole B."}],"target_countries":"US","canonical_url":"https://www.simons.ca/en/men-footwear/slippers/tasman-mule-slippers-men--12496-2441?colourId=1","reddit_insights":{"match":{"notes":"Five of six threads explicitly discuss UGG Tasman slippers; one thread omitted as it lacked Tasman-specific mentions.","confidence":0.9,"matched_terms":["tasman","tasmans","ugg tasman"]},"status":"ok","coverage":{"subreddits":["malefashionadvice","BuyItForLife","Birkenstocks","Shoes","DHgateRepSquad"],"threads_used":5},"evidence":{"items":[{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/1gtn19h/is_it_socially_acceptable_for_a_man_to_wear_ugg/lxnrcg1/","type":"comment","title":"Unisex appeal of UGG Tasman slippers","author":"sixteenHandles","ref_id":"r_e_2","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/1gtn19h/is_it_socially_acceptable_for_a_man_to_wear_ugg/","title":"is it socially acceptable for a man to wear ugg","subreddit":"malefashionadvice"},"excerpt":"I have two teens - boy and girl - and based on what I’ve seen, the Tasmans fall into a unisex “pajamacore” vibe","subreddit":"malefashionadvice"},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/yzzvwm/ugg_tasman_vs_ascot_slippers/ix69tzd/","type":"comment","title":"Durability concerns with UGG Tasman slippers","author":"AnyAcanthopterygii27","ref_id":"r_e_3","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyItForLife/comments/yzzvwm/ugg_tasman_vs_ascot_slippers/","title":"ugg tasman vs ascot slippers","subreddit":"BuyItForLife"},"excerpt":"Neither, ugg quality just isn’t there for suede and slippers. Out of the 2, the ascot has the plastic bottom, not the foam, so slightly better in the long run. Either way the interior is only good for like a month, then it gets battered down and looses all its coziness, and the exterior stretches out over time, so really neither are good options","subreddit":"BuyItForLife"},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Birkenstocks/comments/1hsr6yq/birks_boston_vs_uggs_tasman/m5867h7/","type":"comment","title":"Comparison: Birkenstock Boston vs UGG Tasman","author":"wolfsmanning08","ref_id":"r_e_4","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Birkenstocks/comments/1hsr6yq/birks_boston_vs_uggs_tasman/","title":"birks boston vs uggs tasman","subreddit":"Birkenstocks"},"excerpt":"I have both. The Tasman is way less sturdy for walking. I only wear it if I'm walking short distances. I wear the Bostons way more because I can walk miles in them and don't overheat. Honestly I use some Madewell slippers over my Uggs because the traction is better. Ugg slipper soles feel cheap to me. If I had to pick, I'd go with the Bostons. I like the Ugg Tazzlita better than the Tasman, but my Birks are used 10x more. I still like the Uggs, just more for lounging.","subreddit":"Birkenstocks"},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoes/comments/16mhtsx/trouble_finding_a_good_size_for_the_ugg_tasman/lxd2qa9/","type":"comment","title":"Sizing dilemma with UGG Tasman","author":"kxxxxxxe","ref_id":"r_e_5","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Shoes/comments/16mhtsx/trouble_finding_a_good_size_for_the_ugg_tasman/","title":"trouble finding a good size for the ugg tasman","subreddit":"Shoes"},"excerpt":"Hi, I know this is a year late haha but I’m a 6.5/7 in usual shoe size. I went in person to try the tasman shoes on and the 6 is tight. It’s like tight on the braided part and my toes scrunch up at the top. But the back is snug and doesn’t lift. I do feel like it’s a little tight and my blood circulation is a little bit stopped sometimes wearing it because it’s tight. I tried the size 7 however and it was big. My back would slip out and there was a good amount of space between the back of my foot and the slippers. But the guy told me that I should size down to the 6 because even if it’s tight, he promised it would stretch out and the fluff would flatten to mold to my feet.","subreddit":"Shoes"},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/DHgateRepSquad/comments/1ghkpkd/buyer_review_ugg_tasman_slippers_mens_version/luy6xmw/","type":"thread","title":"Positive review of UGG Tasman replica","author":"swimmer913","ref_id":"r_e_6","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/DHgateRepSquad/comments/1ghkpkd/buyer_review_ugg_tasman_slippers_mens_version/","title":"buyer review ugg tasman slippers mens version","subreddit":"DHgateRepSquad"},"excerpt":"My big wins here are that the color looks correct, the inside is plush and comfortable and the fit is TTS. 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Pour en avoir 2 paires moi-même je sais que les UGG sont hyper confortables.","reviewer_name":"Diane M."},{"date":"January 9, 2025","title":"Super confortable","rating":5,"content":"Les UGG préférés à mon conjoint","reviewer_name":"Audrey G."},{"date":"November 29, 2024","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"Love the colours and comfortable","rating":5,"content":"Love the colours and comfortable","reviewer_name":"Ngan T."},{"date":"November 24, 2024","title":"Pantoufflesb bien confectionné","rating":5,"content":"Chaude et fait bien oui je les recommande","reviewer_name":"paule g."},{"date":"November 17, 2024","tags":["Fabric","Comfort"],"title":"Great mules","rating":5,"content":"Comfortable and warm. Easy to put on","reviewer_name":"MARGOT W."},{"date":"January 6, 2026","title":"Ai retourné le 9. Celui-ci","rating":5,"content":"Ai retourné le 9. 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I do feel like it’s a little tight and my blood circulation is a little bit stopped sometimes wearing it because it’s tight. I tried the size 7 however and it was big. My back would slip out and there was a good amount of space between the back of my foot and the slippers. But the guy told me that I should size down to the 6 because even if it’s tight, he promised it would stretch out and the fluff would flatten to mold to my feet. \n\nIt’s been like 2 hours since I’ve been home and I’m just wearing it and it’s really tight. Is that normal? Should I keep the 6 and just hope it stretches out? \n\nI saw your comments saying that it ended up stretching out but was it a lot? Because I do feel my blood circulation being like cut a little at the top of my foot where it touches the braided part. 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