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Still love them but I feel I'm making a scene when I'm out and about with them."},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/xfc4pg/jogger_performance_jogger_vs_ponto_performance/iolugz9/","type":"comment","title":"Ponto material soft and flattering but pockets insecure","author":"boglehead1","ref_id":"r_e_4","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/xfc4pg/jogger_performance_jogger_vs_ponto_performance/","title":"jogger performance jogger vs ponto performance","subreddit":"vuoriclothing"},"excerpt":"The Ponto is WAY better in my opinion. I own 5 colors now. The material is so soft and fit is flattering. It’s unique. However, due to the material, the pockets aren’t very secure. I wouldn’t wear them on a plane for example."},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/12spt6a/ponto_performance_pants_for_10_ponto_performance/jhx9yfe/","type":"comment","title":"32 degrees sleep pants are near-identical to Ponto","author":"TrevelyansPorn","ref_id":"r_e_5","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/12spt6a/ponto_performance_pants_for_10_ponto_performance/","title":"ponto performance pants for 10 ponto performance","subreddit":"vuoriclothing"},"excerpt":"I bought a pair of 32 degrees that you linked to see if you're full of it. I assumed you were full of it but at $10 it was worth a look.\n\nWow. You're right. Even if there are differences as you say in your edit, the fabric is indistinguishable. The drawstring is the exact same drawstring as well, down to the striped pattern. There are a few very minor differences, like some metal buttons Vuori puts next to the pockets. But I'm shocked at how similar these are given the huge price difference."},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/1et5jkj/is_the_ponto_performance_pants_too_tight_for_you/lias0ho/","type":"comment","title":"Ponto fit is not relaxed but true size works","author":"Eswin17","ref_id":"r_e_6","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/vuoriclothing/comments/1et5jkj/is_the_ponto_performance_pants_too_tight_for_you/","title":"is the ponto performance pants too tight for you","subreddit":"vuoriclothing"},"excerpt":"I never thought the Ponto was supposed to be considered a relaxed fit, though I haven't read the product description. I'm very happy with the fit of mine, wearing my actual size of medium. 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