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The local brand Osklen uses it for shoes and bags among others, i use it for my paintings....."},{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/handbags/comments/1om46d8/i_dont_see_rick_owens_being_talked_about_much_in/nmn9rvq/","type":"comment","title":"Detailed explanation of the Gemini bag's leather and design","author":"zachty22","ref_id":"r_e_6","thread":{"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/handbags/comments/1om46d8/i_dont_see_rick_owens_being_talked_about_much_in/","title":"i dont see rick owens being talked about much in","subreddit":"handbags"},"excerpt":"Sure! So the khaki bag is called the “Gemini large” and it’s made from blistered lamb skin. It’s kind of a Rick Owens only type of leather. Here’s a description from the website that can explain it a lot better than I can: “THIS LIGHTWEIGHT LAMB LEATHER HAS AN EXAGGERATED UNEVEN BLISTERED TEXTURE AND A SOFT, FLUID HANDFEEL. 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